Joe and Jada - Ciara on "Goodies" to 'CiCi' journey, story behind "Level Up" & Kim Kardashian
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iHeartPodcasts and The Volume
4.1 • 10.3K Ratings
🗓️ 28 October 2025
⏱️ 72 minutes
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Summary
Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by one of the queens of R&B and pop music, Ciara. They ask the Grammy Award-winning icon about her perspective on life and the industry as she hits the 40-year-old milestone, what went into her decision to go independent with her 2019 album 'Beauty Marks,' her most recent album 'CiCi' that dropped in August, executive producing the film 'Sarah's Oil' with her husband Russell Wilson of the New York Giants, her friendships with Kim Kardashian and La La Anthony, how Michael and Janet Jackson influenced her as a dancer, and who would win in a dance-off between herself, Chris Brown, Usher, Normani, and Teyana Taylor. Joe and Jada also talk to the "1, 2 Step" singer about discovering Frank Ocean and Justin Bieber early in their careers, Hailey Bieber's influence in Los Angeles, and how hip hop has been co-opted by every other music genre.
6:00 - What it means to turn 40 in the music industry
14:45 - Michael & Janet Jackson as influences
17:45 - Ciara vs. Chris Brown vs. Usher & more dance-off
21:00 - Discovering Frank Ocean & Justin Bieber early in their careers
31:30 - 'CiCi' album
35:30 - Story behind "Level Up"
38:45 - When's Ciara going to collab with Jada?
41:00 - Ciara's love for Africa
48:45 - 'Sarah's Oil'
59:30 - Jada walks off when Joe brings up Elvis
1:05:15 - Kim Kardashian & La La Anthony
1:07:30 - Hip hop influencing every other genre
1:10:30 - Ciara plays "Low" and "Nice N Sweet" for Joe and Jada
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| 0:00.0 | You know, you get blessed to sit down with a lot of people, |
| 0:03.1 | but this one is definitely the one of the ones I was like telling my team, |
| 0:06.8 | I'm so excited to see you guys and to be here. |
| 0:10.3 | You're two legends. |
| 0:26.3 | This is. Yo, y'all, what up, y'all? This your boy Joe Crack. |
| 0:27.7 | You know who it is, your boy Jada. |
| 0:30.3 | This is the Joe and Jada show. |
| 0:33.5 | Every show legendary, every show iconic. |
| 0:37.8 | What more can I say? |
| 0:39.3 | Today's guest, you think about, I will call a quadruple threat. |
| 0:46.8 | You know what I mean? |
| 0:48.5 | Singing, droop dancing, acting, a mother, |
| 0:57.6 | entrepreneur. Five, a Cinco, |
| 1:00.3 | whatever Cinco with a Cinco threat. |
| 1:01.4 | You know what I mean? |
| 1:02.8 | She can do it all. |
| 1:05.0 | Great energy, great person. Life? |
| 1:07.1 | My wife. |
| 1:07.9 | Definitely wife. Mother goes with wife. |
| 1:10.4 | You know what I mean? |
| 1:11.1 | One of the best in the world. |
| 1:12.8 | Because them athletes, man, when they lose. |
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