Joe and Jada - AZ talks ‘Doe or Die 3,’ legacy of ‘Illmatic,’ Jay-Z vs. Nas era & shady hip hop industry stories
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iHeartPodcasts and The Volume
4.1 • 10.3K Ratings
🗓️ 23 May 2026
⏱️ 71 minutes
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Summary
Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by AZ, the Brooklyn MC and hip hop legend, to celebrate the release of his new album ‘Doe or Die III.’ AZ breaks down how the project came together around the 30th anniversary of 'Do or Die,' tells Joe and Jada about his reunion with Nas on Mass Appeal, their iconic collaboration “Life’s a B***” off ‘Illmatic’ (a song that Joe says had him worried for his career), and the “Mo Money Mo Murder (Homicide)” video shoot that had Nas and Jay-Z hanging out before their industry-shaking beef kicked off. The three also drops gems of industry knowledge, breaking down how, as Jada’s “Why?” song starts, the rap labels are designed the keep the artists in debt.
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| 0:00.0 | music we learn from there. |
| 0:01.4 | Four bars of life for big. |
| 0:03.2 | Just four. |
| 0:24.3 | Just give me four bars. Let me hear, Joe. No, no, I'll fuck everything up. I'll fuck up my own one. You don't want me. Life and actuality. Fuck, who's the baddest person status, tender thalery, and my mentality is money-orientated. What? Let's go, crap. That was the closest he got to him. |
| 0:21.2 | Just over. mentality is money-orientated. What? Let's go, crap. That's the closest he got to them. |
| 0:24.4 | Just so I'm proud of you. |
| 0:40.2 | It's the motherfucking Dawn to guard |
| 0:41.3 | of this shit right here. |
| 0:44.6 | Bow down, nigga. |
| 0:46.0 | Joe crap. |
| 0:47.5 | You know who it is your boy, |
| 0:49.1 | Jada? |
| 0:49.5 | This is the Joe and Jada show. |
| 0:51.6 | Every show legendary, |
| 0:53.1 | every show iconic. And we got the pressure on. |
| 0:58.8 | And we're going to continue on stepping on your esophaguses. |
| 1:06.9 | You said, your man Bill Barr said nobody wants beef with us. |
| 1:27.8 | Bill Burke, he said, yo, you beefing with no, you beefing with air, Joe. Yeah, that's you. No, I watched that episode. The niggas said, yo, you beefing with, yo, Joe. He said, Joe, why are you coming to podcast looking for beef with all the podcasts? He said, nobody got beef with you. I said, yo man, I just, that's it. |
| 1:30.0 | I'm about to be looking for smoke. |
| 1:30.6 | Smoke. |
| 1:31.7 | I need some shit. |
| 1:32.3 | Check it out. When you think of today's guest, he's another good friend of ours. |
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