Jodi Kantor and Megan Twohey on ‘She Said,’ the power of journalism, and the oddity of becoming the subject

Next Question with Katie Couric

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Documentary,, Society & Culture, News, Commentary, Health, Health & Fitness

4.4 • 4.7K Ratings

🗓️ 17 November 2022

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Five years ago, on Oct. 5, 2017, the New York Times published an article written by Jodi Kantor and Megan Twohey. The headline read: “Harvey Weinstein Paid Off Sexual Harassment Accusers for Decades.” Fueled by the Hollywood stars in the story, Jodi and Megan’s reporting made the Me Too movement — started by Tarana Burke in 2006 — go viral. Now the reporters and their incredible investigation are the subjects of a feature film called “She Said,” which is based on the eponymous book they co-wrote in 2019. The movie stars Zoe Kazan and Carey Mulligan and not only focuses on the personal lives of the reporters and how they got the story no one else could, but also the lives of their sources — the regular women whose careers were cut short and lives altered because of Weinstein’s torment. “They wanted to break into the industry,” Megan tells Katie, “and instead they experienced attacks and harassment and abuse and to see in this movie the toll that has taken on their lives so many years later. I mean, it wrote them out of the industry.” On this episode of Next Question with Katie Couric, Katie and the New York Times reporters talk about the bizarre experience of seeing their lives unfold on screen, the power of journalism, the comfort of the newsroom, and the lasting impacts of Me Too.

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0:00.0	My name is Joshua Topolsky and I have a new podcast called What Future.
0:04.5	But I want to tell you that I'm being forced by my producer to record a promo telling you about my show.
0:10.1	And I'm not trying to force you to listen to it.
0:12.6	And maybe you're not interested in internet culture and the future of life on planet Earth.
0:18.1	And why John Carpenter movies are so good.
0:20.6	You may just want to listen to a podcast about, I don't know, sports or whatever Joe Rogan talks about.
0:26.6	And that's fine, you know, no judgment.
0:28.4	But if you like what you're hearing and I know that you do, you can listen to all of what future on the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
0:58.4	Hi everyone, I'm Katie Curry and this is next question.
1:14.0	A deluge of allegations ever more serious.
1:17.5	A coordinated campaign of intimidation.
1:20.3	80 other women have made allegations of misconduct against him.
1:24.3	His employment was terminated effective immediately.
1:27.3	Five years ago on October 5th, 2017, the New York Times published an article written by Jody Cantor and Megan Tuey.
1:36.3	The headline read Harvey Weinstein paid off sexual harassment accusers for decades.
1:42.8	Fueled by the Hollywood stars in the story, Jody and Megan's reporting made the Me Too movement, started by Toronto Burke back in 2006, Go Viral.
1:53.3	Thousands of women are using two words on social media to identify themselves as survivors of sexual harassment in assault today.
2:01.3	It's hashtag Me Too.
2:04.3	Millions of Me Too's out there on social media.
2:07.3	Leading to the downfall of so many powerful men, Matt Lauer, Charlie Rose, Chef Mario Battelli, comedian Louis CK, actor Kevin Spacey.
2:16.8	Harvey Weinstein convicted on two counts of sexual assault.
2:19.8	The Me Too movement has hit the banking world.
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