Hi everybody today's

today's podcast is something I ran before a little over a year ago but I cannot think of a better

time to put up an episode with the great Jocco Willink.

I have referred to Jocco's various books

and way of looking at things many times

over this stay-at-home pandemic situation we're in and I always find something of

tremendous value there and Jock was a leader and a brilliant person an autodidact and I just think he's an

awesome presence for this moment and worth listening to and you know if you listen to pod forever that might surprise you because Jock when I probably come at politics from slightly different place

Certain fundamental aspects of the way people order what's important in their lives might be slightly different in certain ways,

but there's a tremendous amount of common ground there and I find him an inspiration and really worth listening to. So Jocko Willink coming right up. Hey, this is the moment. I'm Brian Coppelman. Thanks for listening. This is a big deal to me to have

Jocko Willink here. Jocko has one of those popular podcasts in the country. He's a best-selling author.

He's also an American hero. Navy Seal and is...

By the time this airs, people will know you were on billions. So you also came in and earned episode 8 of our show

and you killed it.

Oh, before you, I'll show you, I'm gonna show you the scene

if you wanna see like the opening.

And so Jock and Willink, thank you for being here, man.

Thanks for having me.

I read, and you're also your children's book author, so not only have you written these books that are for really

anyone, any adult to sort of maximize who they are, but you've written these

children's books and yesterday we were texting were the day before and you

asked me if I'd read one of them Mikey and the dragon, Mikey and the dragons and I said

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