This is the Jockel Underground podcast number 16 with Echo Charles and me, Jockel Willink.

Also doing this tonight, Darryl Cooper.

So here we go.

Good evening to you guys, whatever.

All right, so I was reading, I don't know what, um,

particular wormhole I was down in this situation, but I was reading this art, end up reading this article.

Something called the Ash Experiment run by a psychologist named Solomon Ash.

I want to say this is like 19, early 1950s when this went down.

And so we ran an experiment, which experiments are kind of underrated.

And I think they used to be able to get away with all kinds of stuff.

This one isn't bad, but they, they clearly, maybe that's a good, maybe that's a good one for,

for the unraveling podcast.

Just look at some gnarly psychological experiments.

They're out there.

Yeah, our medical experiments, we get into Tuskegee.

Yeah, that's a freaking nasty, feel a little bit of national shame for a moment.

That's a horrible, horrible one.

All right, so this experiment we set up like this, they had eight people in a room.

Seven of the people are actors or they call them Confederates in the psychological world, but they're actors.

And one person out of these eight is the subject of the experiment.

And so then they get, they get asked a question in this, this particular

experiment, what they did was they had, they, they described it as a vision test or a perception test.

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