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Well, it's that time again for the bookcase with Kate and Charlie.

And I will cut the intro very short since Kate last week went on for about six minutes at the

intro before she got to me. So I'll get right away to Kate. I'm Charlie Gibson.

And what a great way to work a guilt trip. Like that was so passive aggressive. That was masterfully passive aggressive. And I'm Charlie Gibson. And what a great way to work a guilt trip. Like, that was so passive aggressive.

That was masterfully passive aggressive.

And I'm from Minnesota, so I should know.

Hi, I'm the Cape Part.

We have this week an author somewhat well known to me and actually to millions of people.

Joan London.

You may have heard of her.

She hosted Good Morning America for a long time with David Hartman and then with an absolutely brilliant co-host. For 11 years, she worked with this masterful co-host named Charlie Gibson. Oh, I was going to say Elmo. I was going to say Elmo. Not Elmo then. No, it was me. Okay. And she has written a book, a memoir called Joan. She had to struggle to come up with that title, I think. And she was able to do it. And there's a very glamorous picture of her on the cover of the book. And you should tell the story about Jack, your son.

So my son knows I'm reading this book. He always sort of goes, have you finished this book yet?

Do you finish this book yet? I said, I haven't. And he said, who is Joan? And I said,

Joan hosted a TV show with your grandpa Charlie for a long number of years. They were good friends and co-hosts and

whatever. And he goes, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. The woman on the cover? And I said, yeah. And he said,

so the woman on the cover is the same age as Grandpa Charlie? And I said, about, yeah. And he goes,

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