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On Being with Krista Tippett

Joan Halifax — Finding Buoyancy Amidst Despair

On Being with Krista Tippett

On Being Studios

Sociology, Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality, Krista Tippett, Arts, Culture, On Being, Society, Society & Culture, Science, Social Sciences

4.710.2K Ratings

🗓️ 12 October 2017

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

It’s easy to despair at all the bad news and horrific pictures that come at us daily. But Roshi Joan Halifax says this is a form of empathy that works against us. There’s such a thing as pathological altruism. This zen abbot and medical anthropologist has nourishing wisdom as we face suffering in the world.

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Rochie Joan Halifax has said, I am not a nice Buddhist. I'm much more interested in a kind

1:05.6

of plain rice get down in the street Buddhism. She is a Zen teacher and a medical anthropologist

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who's been formed by cultures from the Sahara Desert to the hallways of American prisons.

1:18.0

She founded the project on being with dying. Now she's taking on the problem of compassion

1:23.2

fatigue, though she doesn't like that phrase. Whatever you call it, for all of us overwhelmed

1:29.0

by bad news and by the attention we want to pay to suffering in the world, Joan Halifax

1:35.3

has wisdom. I think what we're seeing actually is not compassion

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fatigue, but empathic distress where there's a resonance and yet we can't do anything about

1:48.1

it. When we are more stabilized that we can face the world with more buoyancy, more capacity

1:55.1

to address these very profound social and environmental issues. So that's why I call these

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things edge states because they really call us to our edge. I'm Krista Tippett and this

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