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I do think that my dad does love me. I think that his love for me is 100% true and real.

And a lot of what I'm saying I have said to him, there is goodness in my dad. I know that's hard to understand or accept or realize or anything.

There is goodness in him. He does have a good heart, but he has this anger that I have spent countless hours in my life trying to understand where it comes from.

Why is it so intense? Why can't he get a hold on it? Why can't he control it? He just can't. He's just walked around with this anger for forever almost.

And when it comes out, it's like it's a completely different person. He can't control it. He can't get a hold on himself.

Now that he's older, he can't really act on it anymore. He's not the young whipper snapper he used to be.

On December 9, 1988, Joan Brunel and her family were preparing to leave their home in Joliet, Illinois, headed toward Texas to visit her husband's family for the holidays.

Things didn't go as planned and they were only able to bring one of their children, the youngest, Serita.

According to Joan's husband, Gil, they left the following morning and Joan asked to be let out of the car in Oklahoma.

She wanted to go back home and try to get her children from a previous relationship and bring them back to Texas.

Gil stated that he dropped her off near a Macalister, Oklahoma bus stop and gave her some cash to get back to Illinois.

Joan has never been seen or heard from again. Amarissa and from Wondery, this is episode 252 of The Vanished, part 2 of Joan Brunel's story.

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In part 1 of Joan's story, we shared with you who Joan was as a person and how her relationship and eventual marriage with Gil developed.

You heard that her husband Gil claimed that during their trip to Texas, Joan suddenly decided to go back to Illinois and hasn't been seen in the 32 years that have since passed.

Gil says that he lasts all Joan, walking toward the bus station to catch a bus back to Illinois to get her other two children.

But is there more to that story and was Gil telling the truth?

In order to find answers to these questions, we have to take a look back at Gil's life and relationship with Joan.

We will hear from Gil as well as more from Sarita, who was more determined than ever to find answers as to what happened to her mom.

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