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Fresh Air

Joan Baez / Suze Rotolo / Al Kooper On Dylan

Fresh Air

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4.434.4K Ratings

🗓️ 10 January 2025

⏱️ 48 minutes

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A Complete Unknown – the film about Bob Dylan is in theaters. We're featuring interviews with three people depicted in the film: Suze Rotolo was his girlfriend and was photographed on his arm for the cover of The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan. She told Terry about that photoshoot. Folk singer Joan Baez was already a star when she met Dylan. She took him on tour, but nobody knew who he was. She talks about some of those early shows. And Al Kooper was a session musician who played the organ on "Like a Rolling Stone."

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0:00.0

This is Fresh Air. I'm David B. and Cooley. A complete unknown, the new film about Bob Dylan's early

0:06.3

career, starring Timothy Salome, is out in theaters. Today, we hear from three of the people who were

0:12.4

depicted in the film. First, Sue's Rodello, who was Dylan's girlfriend and his muse. She met him

0:19.3

when she was 17 and he was 20, and they soon moved in

0:22.7

together in Greenwich Village. They shared a love of poetry and an abundant curiosity. At the time,

0:29.6

the village was the center of the urban folk scene. Rodelow was the young woman arm in arm with

0:35.2

Dylan in the now famous cover photo from his album, The Freewheel and Bob Dylan.

0:40.4

Here's a scene from the film.

0:42.2

The girlfriend, named Sylvie, based partly on Rodolo,

0:45.9

is played by Elle Fanning.

0:47.9

Think about how much I'm going to miss you.

0:51.7

And I realize...

0:53.3

I don't know you.

0:55.0

There's a face on your driver's license.

1:01.0

He's different. It has a different name.

1:04.0

When I get back, I'd like to get to know that guy.

1:07.0

Don't do this.

1:08.0

You wrote a five-minute song about this girl in Minneapolis.

1:11.9

Who was that? What happened? You tell me you dropped out of college. I didn't drop out of college.

1:16.2

You came here with nothing but a guitar. You never talk about your family, your past, besides the carnivals.

1:20.9

People make up their past, Sylvie. They remember what they want. They forget the rest. I tell you everything. My folks, my sister, the street I grew up on.

1:29.3

Yeah, I never asked you about any of it. Well, you think that stuff defines you? What I come from? What I want and what I don't want? What I reject? Yes.

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