This episode is sponsored by Nord VPN Charles Cat.

I'm very happy to let you know that once again we've teamed up with the people at Nord VPN to offer

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And I must say I'm particularly pleased because I've been using Nord-VPN for a while now,

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VPN what about you? Yeah I do find it really useful especially because I do have you

know my parents sent me links to programs in Norway that I can't necessarily watch

on Norwegian public TV but I can set it

so that it will let me watch those programs. So when you were in recently in

Colorado you could tune in and get Norwegian neighbors without any difficulty at

all.

Exactly.

And it's quite nice.

So you just go in on the app, it's really easy and you can just see the different countries

and you can choose them.

I'm quite tempted to just go for some completely random country

and see what on earth I can see in that.

That's maybe not as useful, but it is very nice actually and it's useful because we all travel a lot.

Charles, you in particular, I mean you're famous adopter of new technology.

Yes, well even I can work this and I suppose what it does is give you that extra layer of

protection really because I know if you have an open phone line and you're going on to hopping on to all sorts of networks

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