Jo Whiley on Couch to 5k, Coercive control and suicide, Queen's legacy
Woman's Hour
BBC
4.1 • 3K Ratings
🗓️ 21 April 2026
⏱️ 57 minutes
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Summary
Earlier this year, the UK lost its status as a measles-free country after a rise in deaths from the disease and a fall in the proportion of children having the MMR jab. Yesterday, the House of Lords Childhood Vaccinations Rates in England Inquiry questioned witnesses from a range of healthcare settings, including GPs and practice nurses, health visitors and midwifery experts to find out exactly what is happening and why vaccination rates are falling. Presenter Nuala McGovern is joined by the Chair of that inquiry, Baroness Joan Walmsley. Women make up 75% of those who have used the Couch to 5k app, which turns 10 years old today. Over the past decade, the running companion has been downloaded more than eight million times and inspired an incredible one billion minutes of movement. Nuala is joined by Jo Whiley, the most popular coach on the app, and Claire Baird and Ellen Morris, who have completed the challenge. Earlier this month, in a landmark verdict in the Scottish courts, Lee Milne was found guilty of culpable homicide after his wife Kimberly took her own life. Culpable homicide is similar to the charge of manslaughter in England and Wales. His coercive and controlling behaviour was said to have been a significant contributing factor in Kimberly’s death. Laura Buchan, Legal Director with the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service and Kate Ellis, Joint Head of the Litigation Team at the Centre for Women’s Justice, join Nuala to discuss. On what would have been Queen Elizabeth II’s 100th birthday, we explore her enduring legacy, the new monuments that will commemorate her reign, and how future generations may remember her. We hear from Tessa Dunlop, author of Lest We Forget: War and Peace in 100 British Monuments, and BBC Royal Correspondent Daniela Relph. Presenter: Nuala McGovern Producer: Sarah Jane Griffiths
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| 0:00.0 | BBC Sounds, Music, radio, podcasts. |
| 0:07.4 | I'm Dilley Carter and I love organising. |
| 0:11.6 | In my brand new podcast, sort your life out, unpacked, celebrity guests join me to unbox three revealing items from their home. |
| 0:18.7 | Oh, wow. I wasn't expecting this. Along the way, |
| 0:22.5 | I'll be giving you practical hacks to help you declutter your life as well. This is the tough love |
| 0:27.0 | I need. Don't hold back. I'm definitely tucking you with me back to my house. Sort your life out, |
| 0:32.6 | unpacked. Watch on eye player, listen on BBC Sounds. Hello, I'm Neula McGovern and welcome to Woman's Hour from BBC Radio 4. |
| 0:40.8 | Just to say that for rights reasons, the music in the original radio broadcast has been removed for this podcast. |
| 0:47.0 | Hello and welcome to the programme. Well, in a moment, Baroness Walmsley on why there's been a gradual |
| 0:52.4 | decline in childhood vaccination rates over the past decade. |
| 0:56.8 | Also today, Scotland's legal system has recognised the link between domestic abuse and suicide |
| 1:02.1 | in what has been called a landmark case. |
| 1:05.0 | Lee Milley was convicted of culpable homicide over the death of his wife, Kimberly. |
| 1:10.2 | We will hear the details from Scotland. |
| 1:13.5 | Plus, the late Queen Elizabeth II would have been 100 today. |
| 1:17.4 | We're going to hear about the plans to memorialise her reign and also her legacy. |
| 1:22.3 | And we'll have this familiar voice with us. |
| 1:25.3 | Hi, I'm Jo Wiley. |
| 1:26.8 | And welcome to week one of Couch to 5K. |
| 1:30.6 | Firstly, well done. You've made it to the start line. |
| 1:33.4 | Yes, BBC's Joe Wiley, the cheerleader we all need to get us off the couch as the free running plan, |
| 1:39.6 | Couch to 5K, celebrates its 10th anniversary, also with, two women who have used it to motivate themselves. |
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