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Dirty Mother Pukka with Anna Whitehouse

Jo Elvin on redundancy, not ‘having it all’ and actual success

Dirty Mother Pukka with Anna Whitehouse

Heart

Parenting, Kids & Family

4.91.5K Ratings

🗓️ 27 January 2023

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

If you’ve ever been pushed out of work or made redundant - usually for having a baby - then this episode is for you. The former editor-in-chief Jo Elvin speaks about the moment she was made redundant after 17 years at the helm of Glamour. The crisis of identity that ensued and how she has redefined success. Anna also speaks about the power of ‘average’ and how ‘having it all’ is really just code for ‘doing it all’, which equals burnout and essentially losing everything. Original music by Matt J Brown at WeAreOK.com.

Transcript

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0:00.0

This is a global player original podcast.

0:10.0

Uh, you ready?

0:16.8

Gosh, so ready.

0:19.7

Gosh, yes I am indeed, forsooth.

0:22.5

I know, well sometimes I have to, you know, I just have to exaggerate to get you in the zone.

0:27.2

Yeah, bring myself into the room.

0:28.1

Welcome to Dirty Motherpucker.

0:29.9

I'm Anna Whitehouse, your founder of Motherpucker.

0:32.6

And I got Polly Hayswood in the house.

0:35.4

Hello, hello, hello.

0:36.9

Ever so vaguely. So I sent Polly this week what I The House. Hello, hello, hello. Ever so vaguely.

0:38.1

So I sent Polly this week, what I thought was a really lovely little snippet.

0:43.1

It said, green flags for people in your life.

0:46.0

And this was a little tick box exercise.

0:48.0

Think of your best friend right now.

0:49.4

Think of your closest mate from NCT.

0:51.2

And consider whether they would get a green tick on the things I'm about to say.

0:55.4

Their presence is calming. They listen without judgment. They respect your needs. They are supportive.

1:00.8

You don't have to try around them. They make an effort. They make you laugh. They respect your opinion.

1:06.0

What else? And I sent that to Polly because I thought she complains about what a dick I am to her.

1:12.3

She came back.

1:13.8

She started off with, they don't publicly abuse you or tell you to sort your shit out.

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