The upcoming presentation is a two-man power trip on wrestling podcast production. Oh Oh Oh Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, Hello, wrestling fans, and welcome to JJ, the JJ Dillon podcast.

I am your co-host, J.P. John Paz, and with me is the star of the show,

Two-Time Hall of Famer, the leader of the Four Horsemen, the second greatest manager of all time,

of course, former WBF and WCW executive, J.J. Dillon.

JJ, how are you doing this evening?

I'm doing fine.

I think you should always qualify that by saying the second greatest manager by his own declaration behind Bobby the Brain Heenan.

Yes, okay.

I like that a lot.

Now, last week on the show, we talked about your jump to WCW, obviously behind the scenes late 96, on TV at 97. And before that, you know,

you're in the WWF, and obviously before that, NDA with Crockett. And I think today would be a great

episode, since it's technically the fourth episode,

I think it would be great to talk about the original Four Horsemen.

I think you might be pretty familiar, given your history with those guys, right?

Yes.

Now, there is a great book out there.

I know you're very familiar with it by Dick Bourne, of course,

Mid-Atlantic Gateway.com, called The Four Horseman, a timeline history, and they have some great, great stuff in there about the Four Horsemen, have some interesting stuff. And, you know,

when you think back about the Four Horseman, you always think of Oli, Tully, Arne, yourself, and

Rick Flair as the original. but technically speaking, you weren't

actually a part of the original original grouping, even though you technically are.

Am I right on that?

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