J.J. Vallow and Tiley Ryan are dead.

We may have thought so all along, but now we know.

We know that their remains were destroyed and buried in the backyard of Caltman-Lory

Vallow's new husband's home.

Now, crime stories with Nancy Grace.

We now very special guest, Joseph Scott Morgan, so-called death investigated professor

forensic, Jacksonville State University, and author of Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon.

Joseph Scott, thank you for being with us.

We need an expert regarding the discovery of the bodies of seven-year-old J.J. and teen

girl, Tiley.

Let's just start at the beginning.

We know that the bodies of these two children have been buried for some time.

Tiley's body has been dismembered and burned.

Tell me what you believe the condition of the bodies are right now.

Tiley's body specifically would be in a condition of at least moderate to advanced stages of

decomposition.

I'd have to probably lean more to an advanced stage.

That means you've already got things like skeletonization going on.

If her body was burned, wouldn't we be beyond skeletonization?

Remember, one of the things that's contained in this document that was put forward is the

fact that they did in fact find tissue.

They allude to tissue in there.

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