Hey, it's Rebecca. A couple of notes about this week's episode will catch up on some serial related stuff

But we're also going to be talking about the HBO docuseries the jinx as well as the excellent long-form true crime

Documentary the staircase if you don't mind spoilers. No problem. Keep listening if you're the kind of person who's gonna be really

Mad at us when we talk about what happened in the jinx in the staircase

You might want to hit pause right now and come back to this podcast after you watch them

Now there is a chance I'm hoping it will come together that I will be recording a bonus episode of this podcast in the next week or two

It all depends on what happens with adnon-scied's appeal and if a special guest close to the case is available to chat with me about it

Special guest if you're listening. I hope we can continue our Twitter chat in real life on this podcast

It would be so great to talk with you. We are producing this show independently and that isn't free

Renting studio time ISDN charges travel web hosting if you want to chip in and help us continue making this podcast

Go to crime writers on dot com and please make a donation

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So I've posted that button on our homepage and please keep up leaving great reviews on iTunes

We appreciate it so much. That's it for my spiel enjoy the show

I'm Rebecca LaVoy and you're listening to crime writers on cereal

This is a podcast about the podcast cereal and the conviction and ongoing appeal of adnon-scied

We also discuss story crafting journalism crime and trial investigations pop culture and this week some other stuff entirely

So let's change up the music shall we?

with me in the studio today is my true crime co-author and real life husband Kevin Flynn hello again Kevin

I revekin nice to see you after a couple of weeks. I want to give you a special thanks for one thing Kevin

The number of times this weekend when I cut you off in the middle of one of our debates and said save it for the podcast

Thanks for your patience when I'm ready to explode

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