The freedom of Christian womanhood, that phrase may even sound strange to you today, because we're in interesting times as evangelical Christians.

It sometimes strikes me as a guy that women are the

ones who are expected to do a thousand different things. And scripture has some different things

for godly women to do. But a lot of that thousand item list isn't necessarily deduced right from the

pages of the Bible. Welcome to Grace and Truth. My

name is Owen Strand. I will be your host. Please subscribe to this podcast on all relevant platforms.

I am joined for a second episode. She is now a two-time guest of Grace and Truth joining

a elite company. I'm joined by Ginger Dugger Vualo. Ginger is the author of the recent book,

very recent book, Becoming Free Indeed, Excellent Book. My Story of Disentangling Faith from Fear,

that's her subtitle, not mine. Ginger, thank you so much for being back on Grace and Truth.

Thanks, so, and I'm glad to be here. So we were talking last episode, kind of about your story in general.

We talked about Gothardism, this theological system that you were raised under, at least a form of it.

And we covered how Gothard is and was, I would say, a raging legalist who seems to confuse his opinions, and I use that

word carefully, with God's own law, God's own truth.

And you've been in a long journey of working through that, the Spirit of God helping you

through that to go to Scripture and compare his teachings

with God's teachings.

We touched on some of your peers a lot.

This is not a little bitty problem, Ginger, as you're well aware, a lot of young people

who were raised in Gothardite legalistic, fundamentalistic circles, not necessarily

gothordism in every case, but this kind of system where it's fear-based, where you live,

gripped by terror of doing something wrong, where the gospel, if it is articulated, the true one,

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