Right. Well, welcome back to the final episode of Jimmy's Jobs of the Future for 2025. We had so much lovely feedback on the episode of Jimmy versus the producers. We have decided to rerun it as a recap episode for this year. But Sonny, do you first want to explain what your job is?

Yes. I mean, feedback I got from last time was that I didn't

do enough sort of explaining and sort of letting the audience know what is actually going on.

My name is Sunny. I produced the show. I've produced the show for about three and a half years

with varying other team members involved. And I essentially do the dirty work. Would you say that's fair?

What? Making me look good.

Make you look good. But I do the sort of grubby negotiations with various guests and

sponsors and things and occasionally book a guest. But that is few and far between. Hopefully

next year that will obviously increase. What do you think makes an ideal guest um i actually

before we sat down just now uh i've got a gpt model that helps us with our thumbnail testing

and in that model it has transcripts of the last 50 or 100 episodes and I actually asked it what are common themes that all of our guests have that we end up using for the title, the thumbnail, the topics.

And it said, the biggest theme across all of them is dismantling popular myths.

Right.

That apparently is a theme for our guests. So politics doesn't mean

do this. It means do that. Business entrepreneurship isn't just about that. It's that.

That's interesting. It's kind of vague. Yeah. So I'm slightly more equipped than normal to

say what makes a decent guest. But it's

normally that, I think, if they're sort of in the media and the spotlight, that helps. And

the sort of myth of TV is dying seems to have slightly turned a page. Don't you think that's

quite a lot of recency bias in terms of that's just what we've had on the last couple of months.

That's true, but I'm also basing that of Tim Campbell from The Apprentice who seem to do quite well.

Yeah.

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