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Bullseye with Jesse Thorn

Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis

Bullseye with Jesse Thorn

NPR

Society & Culture

4.72.7K Ratings

🗓️ 19 May 2026

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis have been working together for 40 years, producing some of the biggest R&B records of all time. When they spoke to Bullseye in 2021, they had just released their first ever album as recording artists: Jam & Lewis, Volume 1. They talked about the album, the hits they contributed vocals to, and the jaw-dropping synthesizer work they do on the Janet Jackson single “Love Will Never Do.”

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0:00.0

Bullseye with Jesse'm Jesse Thorne.

0:29.9

Before we get into my interview with Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis, I want to start things off with a song.

0:35.8

Chewy, if you would.

0:48.0

Music I want to start things off with a song. Chewy, if you would. That's called Dream Street by Janet Jackson, a single from her 1984 album of the same name.

0:54.6

A nice 80s, dancing, new wavy song,

0:58.1

but if you aren't familiar with it,

1:00.2

look, I understand.

1:01.7

Janet Jackson is a wholly unique artist,

1:04.3

and Dream Street doesn't really sound like a

1:06.7

Janet Jackson song, you know?

1:09.6

It just sounds like a song.

1:13.0

Compare that, though, to her next single.

1:15.8

What Have You Done for Me Lately?

1:30.3

What Have You Done for Me Lately? or yeah or the one after that's done for me lately or yeah

1:43.7

or the one after that nasty

1:43.7

Give me a beat! Now those are Janet Jackson songs, right?

2:12.4

Both of those are from Control, 1986.

2:16.3

Control was a departure for Janet.

2:18.9

She stopped working with her father,

2:20.8

and she brought on two guys from Minneapolis

2:22.7

as producers and songwriters,

2:24.8

Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis.

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