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Radio Atlantic

Jim Clyburn

Radio Atlantic

The Atlantic

Politics, News, Society & Culture

4.41.9K Ratings

🗓️ 17 December 2020

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Summary

The House majority whip from South Carolina gave Joe Biden the key endorsement of his candidacy. What does the civil rights veteran want to see from his party — and the President-elect — in 2021? How will Democrats bridge the divide between progressives advocating for change and Biden preaching a ‘return to normalcy?’ And with Clyburn chairing the new president’s inauguration committee, what does he expect from a very unusual transfer of power? This interview was recorded as part of an Atlantic Live event on December 17th, 2020. Support this show and all of The Atlantic's journalism by subscribing at: theatlantic.com/supportus Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to the ticket. I'm Isaac Dauver. Well, Joe Biden has once again won the

0:17.1

presidency. The Electoral College voted this week confirming his victory and

0:20.9

setting the stage for his inauguration.

0:23.0

After 60 fruitless legal challenges this past month,

0:26.0

it feels like Biden has won the presidency over and over and over.

0:31.0

But I have to say that outcome looked pretty unlikely at the beginning

0:34.4

of 2020. Despite being a popular former Vice President, Biden started the

0:38.2

primary season coming in fourth in Iowa and then fifth in New Hampshire. All that change in South Carolina though

0:44.1

leading Biden to win the Democratic nomination and eventually the presidency

0:48.0

with one endorsement. My guess this week, Congressman Jim Clyburn.

0:55.5

So when Congressman Clyburn came out and endorsed Biden three days before the vote,

0:59.3

it was seen as a turning point.

1:00.9

Biden went on to handily win the state. Now Clyburn has gone from

1:04.3

binding-maker to Biden dealmaker. As the House Majority Whip and a leader in the

1:08.7

Congressional Black Caucus, any legislation the new president wants to pass

1:12.4

will, in part, go through Clyburn.

1:15.0

I spoke with the congressman for an Atlantic Live event this week about the transition,

1:19.0

and I wanted to bring that conversation here to the ticket.

1:22.0

Does he think that Biden is keeping his promise of having the

1:24.4

most diverse cabinet ever? What does he think of the party's future with

1:28.3

progressive stars shaping how issues are framed but Biden preaching moderation

1:32.2

and a return to normalcy.

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