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Skullduggery

Jim Clyburn: 2020 Kingmaker

Skullduggery

Michael Isikoff, Daniel Klaidman, Victoria Bassetti

Politics, White House, News Commentary, Government, Senate, Podcasts, President, House Of Representatives, News, Victoria Bassetti, Supreme Court, Michael Isikoff, Foreign Policy, Scandels, Yahoo News, Voting, Elections, Skullduggery, Daniel Klaidman

42K Ratings

🗓️ 5 March 2020

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Congressman Jim Clyburn and Historian and Journalist Evan Thomas join Michael Isikoff and Daniel Klaidman on "Skullduggery." Clyburn discuss the sudden surge from Joe Biden and the role he played in it, who he thinks should be Biden's running mate, and why he believes Biden was a victim of the #metoo movement. Then Thomas gives us an inside look into the mind of his grandfather, Norman Thomas, who was the last socialist to run for President, and if Bernie Sanders would suffer the same fate if elected as the democratic nominee.

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0:00.0

I'm Michael Isgoth, Chief Investigative Correspondent for Yahoo News.

0:03.0

And I'm Dan Clyde, Editor-in-Chief of Yahoo News.

0:05.3

And a quick reminder that you can follow us at SkullDuggeryPod.

0:09.9

And by the way, if you've got any questions, thoughts, ideas you want to share,

0:14.1

tweet right at us. Now let's get on with the show.

0:19.6

It was the end of February, barely a week ago, and the pundits were starting to write their

0:24.0

obituary for Joe Biden's presidential campaign. You'd gotten Claubbert in Iowa,

0:29.6

New Hampshire, and Nevada. Money was drying up.

0:32.4

Donors and consultants were nervous, and Mike Bloomberg seemed about to take over the moderate

0:37.6

lane in the Democratic primaries. Enter Congressman James Clyburn, the dean of the South Carolina

0:44.5

delegation, and the highest-ranking African-American in Congress.

0:49.1

On the eve of the South Carolina primary, he delivered his long-awaited endorsement.

0:54.4

And it was Biden, with whom we had been friends for 40 years, who got the nod.

0:59.8

Along with a lecture from Clyburn about what the former Vice President needed to do to write his

1:05.1

campaign. Biden won South Carolina in a landslide, and then went on to smashing victories on

1:11.4

Super Tuesday, making him the new prohibitive favorite to win the nomination, and Clyburn,

1:17.2

the party's new kingmaker. We'll talk to Clyburn himself, and we'll talk to our old

1:22.7

Newsweek colleague, Evan Thomas, whose grandfather ran for President six times as the Socialist

1:28.6

Party candidate on this episode of Skull Duggery.

1:38.8

Because people have got to know whether or not they're President of the crop. Well,

1:42.1

I'm not a crop. I told the American people I did not trade arms for hostage. My heart and my best

1:47.5

intentions still tell me that's true, but the facts and the evidence tell me it is not. I did not

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