Welcome to the Untold Story Podcast, everybody.

I'm Martha McCallum, and one of the real untold stories that is now being revealed,

thanks to the Make America Healthy Again movement

is why Americans, millions and millions of them, are unhealthy and sick and obese.

And I just think it's really an exciting time to be reevaluating all of this and to have a lot of leadership and fresh thinking

on all of these issues from the people involved with this Maha movement. So I'm thrilled to have

Jillian Michaels with me today. She's up, of course, I mean, who doesn't know what Jillian

Michaels is, but celebrity trainer, host of the

podcast, keeping it real with Jillian Michaels, and also the host of toxic America's food crisis,

which you can find on Fox Nation, which gives you a lot of background into how all of this started.

Gillian, welcome. Thank you. It's great to have you here. So the big news this week is the announcement

of a new food pyramid. I mean, I can still picture the food pyramid from when I was in grade

school and it was like six to 10 servings of bread a day, essentially. And then it went down

and got small. And I think like meat was at the bottom, right?

So now you're kind of flipping it on its head. Give us a sense of what the food pyramid changes

and what difference it will really make to regular people. A huge one. Not the difference you think.

This isn't actually about nutrition instruction

for the average person. It's a business plan. Basically, the food pyramid guides hundreds of billions

of dollars of our tax money, our subsidies, and it takes that money and it pays for our kids,

public school lunches. It feeds our military.

It's what directs food assistance programs like SNAP and women and children. So many decades ago,

the initial food pyramid was designed with the best intentions. The idea was how do we essentially

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