Jillian C. York on Free Expression on a Broken Internet
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🗓️ 30 July 2020
⏱️ 47 minutes
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This week on Lawfare's Arbiters of Truth series on disinformation, Kate Klonick and Quinta Jurecic spoke with Jillian C. York, the director for International Freedom of Expression at the Electronic Frontier Foundation. She’s been an activist working on issues of internet freedom and free expression for many years, which gives her a unique perspective on debates over disinformation and platform governance. Jillian and Kate discussed Facebook’s Oversight Board—the entity designed to provide accountability for the platform’s content moderation decisions—whose development they have watched closely, and about which Kate has written a recent article. They also discussed why Jillian thinks content moderation is broken, what technology companies could do better and how discussions of platform governance tend to focus on the United States to the exclusion of much of the rest of the world.
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| 0:25.6 | no bull and the aftermath. |
| 0:33.9 | When it comes to these companies, they never learn from their errors in developing countries. |
| 0:38.9 | So when it hate speech in Myanmar, didn't learn anything from that. |
| 0:42.8 | Now they're dealing with the same thing, but at a much larger scale in the US and Europe. |
| 0:47.0 | Not only that, but they're also putting massive resources toward it in the US and Europe |
| 0:51.6 | when they put minimal resources to it in Myanmar, even after the UN said, you know, flat |
| 0:58.2 | out that Facebook had contributed to genocide there or ethnic cleansing, I think, is the |
| 1:02.3 | term that they used. |
| 1:04.0 | Nevertheless, I think really not only does it echo previous content and moderation debates, |
| 1:09.5 | but it, to me, and I think to anyone working on this at an international scale, it always |
| 1:14.6 | just feels like, like everybody in the US is just a little bit behind the debate. |
| 1:20.9 | I'm Quinta Gerussick and this is the LawFair podcast July 30, 2020. |
| 1:29.0 | This week on our Arbiters of Truth series on disinformation, Kate Clonick and I spoke |
| 1:33.8 | with Jillian C. York, the director for International Freedom of Expression at the Electronic Frontier |
| 1:39.3 | Foundation. |
| 1:41.1 | She's been an activist working on issues of internet freedom and free expression for |
| 1:44.9 | many years, which gives her a unique perspective on the debates over disinformation and platform |
| 1:50.1 | governance that we talk about on this podcast. |
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