do do do do to do here we go my name's dot adams this is kathy adams welcome back to yet another

episode of zen parenting radio this is episode number i want to say 315 because last time was pie

yeah that's right 315 so uh in case you're new to zen parenting, what do we do? Why do we listen? The reason that we have these podcasts, so you'll feel outstanding. And who doesn't want to feel outstanding? And always remember our motto, which is, the best predictor of a child's will-being is a parent's self-understanding. So instead of the normal jibber-jabber that comes from Kathy and I, we have two

wonderful guests.

We have Jill Salzman, creator of the founding moms and her daughter, Maggie, who's

here.

Maggie, how old are you?

Eight.

Well, and I have to say this first, Jill, your bio is extensive.

It's terribly exhausting to read myself, so it's okay.

You don't have to go through the whole thing.

We didn't.

I kind of put it together shorter, but I just want to say that it's not because the other things aren't of value.

Because when you've had a big career, you're worth it to say everything you've done.

You know, I've done a lot of things and I can, the list is long, but really, I only do one thing.

There you go. So let me read this. So Jill Salsman created the founding moms, the world's first

and only kid-friendly collective of monthly meetups for mom entrepreneurs, which is good because most of our

listeners, unfortunately, are moms.

I'm trying to get the guys on board.

Unfortunately?

That's a beautiful thing.

I know, but I want even distribution.

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