Welcome to Unstyled. I'm your host, Christine Barberick, co-founder and global editor-in-chief of Refinery 29.

Each week, I invite a notable person to come in and talk with us as we explore the funny, inspiring,

sometimes heartbreaking tales of life, work, and love, as told through the things that we wear.

Full disclosure, Jill Kargman, creator and star of Bravo's hit scripted series,

Odd Mom Out, and I don't have a ton in common.

She's a mom of three. I'm not.

She grew up and has been raising her family in the Schmancy Upper East Side Neighborhood of Manhattan.

I lived there only briefly as a very, very single girl.

She adores skulls and tattoos.

Me, not so much.

But there is one thing that Jill and I do have in common,

and it's the very thing that made me want to get her into the studio today, badly, to talk about.

That is, the familiar feelings we all have from time to time about not fitting in.

Unlike other television series, movies and memoirs that recount and almost romanticize the

sad, often devastating miseries of feeling exiled

or like a complete outsider in your own life.

Jill's depiction of not fitting in reads like major life goals.

Between her character's enduring affection for her sweet husband,

her 10 calls a day devotion to her BFF,

her underwear dance parties with her kids,

and her daily battles to live her truth

out on the mean streets of New York where zombie moms, posers, and aristocratic drones seem to be

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