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Hello, Gary.

Hello, Guy.

So, Jill Furmanowski, one of rock and roll's most famous photographers, I think.

Yeah, and enduring.

Enduring.

Well, she's to endure you for a long time, hasn't she?

How long have you known her?

I've known Jill for, God, it's nearly 40 years. Oh, really? How did you first meet? It's through Pink Floyd, because she was always, you know, she was always on hand for Floyd stuff and she's always done David's stuff. And of course, she's done the sources. Yes, of course. And many, many others.

I mean, the Rolling Stones and the, you know, I mean, it goes on, doesn't it?

It's basically everybody in music.

It's basically everyone, except for one person, actually, Gary, and I want to bring, I'm not

going to bring this up now, because I think we should do it once she's on, because I think

you'll be quite surprised to find this particular hole in her,

Urvra.

In her oeuvre?

Excuse me, Doctor, I've got it a hole in my ervra.

I thought we'll have a little chat about photographers in music, you know, really.

I mean, we'll get on and talk to her as well, but you and I can just talk a bit about it.

And I'd like to start with someone called Albert Marion.

Have you heard of him?

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