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The Dishcast with Andrew Sullivan

Jill Filipovic On Feminism And Abortion

The Dishcast with Andrew Sullivan

Andrew Sullivan

Politics, News, Religion & Spirituality

4.6836 Ratings

🗓️ 17 February 2023

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

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Jill is a journalist and lawyer. She has been a columnist for The Guardian, a contributing opinion writer for the New York Times, and an old-school blogger at Feministe. She’s the author of OK Boomer, Let’s Talk: How My Generation Got Left Behind and The H-Spot: The Feminist Pursuit of Happiness. Currently a columnist for CNN, Jill also runs her own substack and writing retreats around the world. 

For two clips of our convo — on the state of feminism and gender equality, and whether freedom brings more gender differences — pop over to our YouTube page. Other topics: to what extent gender differences are biological or cultural, testosterone and the aggression of men, bonobos, when trans ideology reinforces the gender binary in kids, a non-zero-sum feminism, why men want quickies while women are more picky, the dating differences between gays and lesbians, the need for parental leave, child custody law, the abortion debate, pro-life women, a human life vs. personhood, individual rights vs. democracy, the dangers of pregnancy and childbirth, contraception, porn, and the recent spike in depression among teen girls. Just a few topics. Nothing controversial.

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0:00.0

Thank you.

0:03.0

I'm going to Hi there and welcome to another this cast.

0:31.6

It's February and it's still cold.

0:34.6

It's getting warmer.

0:35.8

Valentine's Day has just passed.

0:41.3

And what? No, it's not today.

0:51.1

I mean, it is today, but by the time they hear this, it'll be Friday, Flid. Sorry, that was, that was Ed McMahon chiming in here.

0:56.3

Valentine's Day is today. Happy Valentine's Day, Jill. Happy Valentine's Day.

1:05.4

And we have today a wonderful guest that I've been hoping to get for a while. She's a journalist and lawyer. Her name is Jill Filipovich. She's been a columnist for The Guardian, contributing opinion writer for the New York Times, an old school blogger at Feminist back in the day. And she writes for CNN and she's written some wonderful pieces for the New York Review of books as well, that wonderful magazine. And she now has her own sub-subs-like. What's the

1:30.2

sub-stack called, Jill? It's just jill.substack.com. If your listeners have suggestions for a

1:35.5

title, I'm open.

1:38.3

Jill.com.com. Thanks so much for joining me. I'm particularly pleased to have someone with whom I'm

1:45.7

probably going to disagree a certain amount, which is the goal of this. And I wish I would have

1:51.3

more conversations like that. So thank you very much for being open to conversation. Tell me to

1:56.8

start with, where did you grow up? And what were your main influences as a kid or an adolescent?

2:02.6

I grew up in Seattle with a dad who is a criminal defense attorney who's basically like Bernie Sanders and clogs and a mom who's a nurse.

2:13.1

We tease him for his clogs and his Subaru.

2:15.4

He's a real Pacific Northwest, Pacific Northwest, dad.

2:18.3

Oh, my God.

2:18.7

Sorry, dad, if you're listening, blowing him up.

2:21.4

But a criminal defense lawyer who was a public defender my whole life,

2:26.1

very committed to social justice and to fairness.

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