What was it like to be a woman on the 2016 campaign trail?

Two very different women, two very different books.

We're going to talk with Jill Abramson, a former executive editor of The New York Times

about Hillary Rodden Clinton's new book, What Happened and Katie Turz' new campaign

memoir, Unbelievable.

She knows that he is a creature of media and, you know, he was a reality TV star, but

this is an indication that he's monitoring every word.

Alexander Alter will give us an update from the literary world, plus we'll talk about

what we and the wider world are reading.

This is Inside the New York Times Book Review.

I'm Pamela Paul.

Paula Abramson joins us now from Cambridge.

She is, of course, a former executive editor of The Times and currently is a political

columnist for the Guardian and a senior lecturer at Harvard.

This week, she reviews Katie Turz' new campaign memoir, Unbelievable.

My front row seat to the craziest campaign in American history.

Jill, thank you for being here.

I'm thrilled to be with you.

And I'm also excited.

We're going to talk not only about this book, but also about its kind of natural companion,

Hillary Clinton's new memoir, What Happened.

The Hillary book is actually number one on Amazon right now, and Katie Turz' book is

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