Hello and welcome back to Franklin Covey's twice weekly podcast on leadership with Scott Miller. I'm your host each week 25 plus your associate of the

Franklin Covey company where I am privileged each week to join you both on audio and

video for what is now the world's largest weekly leadership podcast, six years going,

250 plus episodes where every week we turn our spotlight on to someone who we think can help

you become a better leader. Perhaps that person is an internal author or thought leader and what is

the world's most trusted leadership company, Franklin

Covey, or perhaps it's one of our friends or colleagues or someone who we've partnered

with to collaborate on their own intellectual property, maybe to make you a better operations leader, a better finance

leader, maybe it's someone who survived a tragedy or researched a topic that will make you in fact

a better parent or school teacher or a government leader.

And then there are certain people that have had remarkable journeys that none of us can relate to

and just make you more grateful for what you have in life and that is the feature of today's

interview. Today is going to be a little bit different interview because we're going to

feature two co-authors of a book that has riveted me the last several months as I have been reading it.

And the reason I say months is because this is a book that as an American,

as a member of a free society, it was a watershed of reflection and gratitude for stories

experiences I can't even comprehend I don't read fiction you can see behind me in the set, I read several hundred

non-fiction books a year, but if I were to read fiction,

this I think would be the most outrageous story

I've ever read, and I am honored today to be interviewing the two co-authors.

Geehune Park and her co-author, Salin Che, have written this book called The Hard Road Out, One Woman's Escape from North Korea.

The authors are joining us today,

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