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Robert Wright's Nonzero

Jihad, Trumpism, and the Crisis of Liberalism (Robert Wright & Suzanne Schneider)

Robert Wright's Nonzero

Nonzero

News & Politics, Society & Culture, Philosophy

4.7618 Ratings

🗓️ 24 May 2022

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

Suzanne’s new book, The Apocalypse and the End of History: Modern Jihad and the Crisis of Liberalism ... The ongoing War on Terror in the age of the new Cold War ... Jihadism as a modern phenomenon ... The recent evolution of the doctrine of jihad ... What about modernity are jihadists – and US right-wingers – reacting against? ... Suzanne: To thwart authoritarians, build robust democratic communities ... Who is fighting the liberal status quo? ... Are Democrats too idealistic? ... Dispelling the myth of primordial ethnic tribalism ...

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0:00.0

You're listening to a podcast from Blogging Heads TV.

0:09.3

Hi, Suzanne.

0:11.2

Hi there.

0:12.5

How are you doing?

0:13.5

Good.

0:13.9

How are you?

0:15.1

Can't complain.

0:16.0

Let me introduce this.

0:16.8

I'm Robert Wright.

0:17.3

This is the right show available on both streaming video and via audio podcast.

0:20.6

You are Suzanne Schneider.

0:23.0

You're an historian at the Brooklyn Institute for Social Research.

0:28.0

You've written for a number of places people have heard of like The Washington Post,

0:31.8

Foreign Policy, Mother Jones.

0:34.6

Perhaps most important for our purposes, your author of a book we're going to discuss

0:38.7

called the apocalypse and the end of history modern jihad and the crisis of liberalism so uh

0:46.4

no shortage of ambition in that title the apocalypse a lot congratulations on that thank you your

0:54.1

publisher was fine with that you said i'm going for the long ball and they said, okay? They said, why don't you just talk about everything? That sounds great. I'm sure to be a runaway bestseller. You did come up with a subtitle. It narrows things down a little modern jihad and the crisis of liberalism, but I've got to say, this is, it is about much more than

1:11.8

jihad. It is a, it is a, a comment about the modern world. And, but I do want to start with jihad,

1:23.2

because, you know, as you're writing the book, kind of the governing paradigm of American

1:28.5

national security was global war on terror.

1:31.1

Yeah.

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