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The Best Ever CRE Show

JF 3885: Main Street Capitalism, Industrial CRE, and the End of Fake Equity ft. Russell Gray

The Best Ever CRE Show

Best Ever CRE

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4.8983 Ratings

🗓️ 24 April 2025

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Summary

On this episode of the Best Ever CRE Show, Pascal Wagner interviews Russell Gray, the long-time co-host of the Real Estate Guys Radio Show and a seasoned LP investor. Russell dives deep into the critical role macroeconomics plays in investment success, sharing his personal crash-and-burn story from the 2008 mortgage crisis and the economic warning signs he missed. He breaks down the shift from Wall Street to Main Street capitalism, the flaws of financialized markets, and the need to value investments based on real income. He also outlines practical strategies LPs can use to evaluate deals through macro, demographic, and geographic lenses, and advocates for a return to real asset investing and productive capitalism. Russell Gray Founder and Host Based in: Phoenix, Arizona Say hi to them at www.RussellGray.com www.linkedin.com/in/russellwgray/ x.com/RussWGray vikingcapllc.com Join the Best Ever Community  The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.  Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Have you ever felt like every good deal looks good on paper, but you're not sure how to tell

0:05.5

what really makes a strong investment? In this episode of the Passive Income Playbook on the

0:11.2

Best Ever CRE show, we're digging into the macro forces shaping today's investment landscape

0:16.2

and how you, as an LP, can build a smarter investment thesis.

0:22.1

I'm your host, Pascal Wagner, and on today's episode, I'm joined by Russell Gray,

0:26.5

co-host of the Real Estate Guys radio show, one of the most downloaded investing podcasts in the world,

0:32.7

with Russell, who has over 20 years of experience as a past investor,

0:37.1

and he's personally mentored

0:38.7

thousands of syndicators through his events and masterminds. In today's episode, we talk about

0:44.1

the critical mistakes LPs make when evaluating deals. We talk about the macroeconomic shifts that

0:49.7

blindside, you know, unprepared investors or people who haven't thought through it and why your

0:55.5

portfolio strategy should be built on more than just projected returns. So if you want to

1:01.5

sharpen your thinking, spot risks, others pretty much miss and invest with more clarity and

1:07.0

confidence, this episode is for you. Let's dive in. Welcome, Russell. Well, I'm excited to be here,

1:13.7

Pascal. Thank you for having me. Russell is one of the people who has a great understanding of

1:21.3

macroeconomics partially because maybe he got burned early in his journey, but I would love

1:26.3

for you to start out with telling us

1:29.6

how you got into LP investing and walk us through that journey that kind of influences how

1:37.3

you think about the market today so that we can then have a good foundation to talk about

1:42.1

the macro topics that I think our listeners will be interested in.

1:45.9

Yeah. So, you know, I think I didn't grow up in a real asset investing family. My dad was a immigrant to the United States.

1:55.1

He kind of escaped Japanese-occupied Philippines in the 1940s, went to high school in Southern California in the

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