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The Best Ever CRE Show

JF 2902: Tariffs, Fed Watch, and Deal Timing

The Best Ever CRE Show

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Realestatepodcast, Entrepreneurship, Business, Realestate, Investing, Realestateinvesting, Realestateinvestingpodcast

4.8983 Ratings

🗓️ 11 May 2025

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

On this episode of The Horizon, John discusses the complex forces influencing interest rates, inflation, and investment strategy in today’s real estate market. He breaks down Wall Street’s predictions for Fed rate cuts, explains why the Federal Reserve is likely to hold steady due to policy uncertainty—especially around tariffs, immigration, and supply chains—and challenges the idea that waiting to buy or sell will yield better opportunities. John also explores how cap rates, treasury yields, and government deficits intersect with real estate performance, ultimately advising investors to seek deals with built-in value or value-add potential rather than attempting to time the market. Get a 4-week trial, free postage, and a digital scale at ⁠https://www.stamps.com/cre⁠. Thanks to Stamps.com for sponsoring the show! Post your job for free at https://www.linkedin.com/BRE. Terms and conditions apply. Try Huel with 15% OFF + Free Gift for New Customers today using my code bestever at https://huel.com/bestever. Fuel your best performance with Huel today! Join the Best Ever Community  The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.  Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at ⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome back, best ever listeners, to the Horizon podcast. I'm John Chang, and I've been active in

0:06.0

real estate investing most of my life, and since 2007, I've led the research and advisory

0:11.8

services team at Marcus de Milichap, the leading commercial real estate brokerage company.

0:16.9

Now, I must mention, as always, that I'm doing this podcast independently and what I say on this show does not reflect the opinions or positions of Marcus and Milichap.

0:28.5

So, what's top of mind for me these days? And I promise I'm going to have a guest on here shortly. In one of my upcoming videos, I have a couple people who are going to be great.

0:38.4

They're lined up.

0:39.4

I've just been traveling a lot,

0:41.7

and I just really haven't had a reliable calendar to book in people.

0:47.1

So I'm doing this on myself, all by myself again.

0:50.9

But what is top of mind right now is interest rates. And, you know, I keep tracking all of these

1:00.0

different measurements and especially FedWatch, right? Fedwatch is basically the reflection of what

1:08.0

Wall Street's opinion is of what rates will be based on how bonds are

1:12.0

trading and where people are putting their capital. And right now, and this changes like daily,

1:21.2

hourly sometimes. But right now, the prediction from FedWatch based on investors on Wall Street

1:26.4

is that by the end of July,

1:28.7

there's a 60% likelihood that rates will be at least 25 basis points lower.

1:34.2

By the end of October, the bet is 70% that rates will be at least 50 basis points lower.

1:41.0

And by mid-December, a 57.5% probability the rates will be at least 75 basis

1:47.0

points lower. Now, I'm talking about the Fed funds rate here. So that is controlled by the Federal

1:51.9

Reserve. It's the overnight rate. It's what the banks lend money to each other, the interest rate on

1:57.9

that overnight, basically. So, but it's an important benchmark of the overall interest rate climate.

2:05.6

You remember in, in, you know, 22, 23, the Fed was pushing rates higher and the 10-year trended with it and

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