Now, someone who has been one of the most important voices throughout Israel's genocide,

in terms of so many aspects, the historical context, the insight,

I know a lot of you follow him on social media for that reason,

is Zachary Foster, who is a brilliant historian, who has actually,

we'll talk about this, you've been traveling around Palestine as of late.

It's great to see you again, by the way.

Likewise, Owen. Thanks so much for having me.

It's such an honor, honestly.

I just want to start. I mean, kind of weave this in a bit.

We'll talk a bit about, because you've just come back.

You were there, I know, for about a month or so.

I just want to start a month or so.

I just want to start with Smotrich, who is the finance minister in Israel.

We call him, he's often portrayed, I mean, as a kind of far right minister, as though,

I don't know what, as though Netanyahu's a relative moderate, all the others I mean, it's true he uses a particular extreme genocidal rhetoric,

although there's the kind of bogeyman approach, isn't there, to the Israeli state

where it's a big bad, smotrich in Ben-Givir, so that's the issue.

But nonetheless, he has just announced that thousands of homes will be built illegal homes, a legal settler

homes in the West Bank, which is of course illegally occupied. And he said, we will bury a

Palestinian state. Europe will have nothing to recognize. He's referring there to the

growing wave of recognition

of a Palestinian state by various European nations. What's your kind of take on this?

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