Well, the first part you mentioned about McCarthy, though, I am intrigued by the fact that he's dealing with Jerry Jones.

He's a veteran head coach.

He's had success.

He's calm.

He's calm.

Right?

Never has those blow up press conferences or he's never like angry or passive aggress.

He's never any of that.

He just stands there, takes the music or or takes it on the chin or whatever,

and just answers the questions and goes back and does his job.

I mean, five years in Dallas, in which you have 312 win seasons,

granted, you don't have a lot of playoff success,

and you're dealing with Jerry Jones,

and you're dealing with the scrutiny that comes with being the head coach of the Dallas

Cowboys, I would actually say his five-year run in Dallas has been sort of impressive as an outsider

based on that.

Yeah, I mean, so that part I'm intrigued by, it's the marriage with Rogers that just doesn't

work.

Yeah, I hear you.

But what else, what else can Rogers do?

And I think the other thing is, what else can the Jets do?

Well, what else can the Jets do, I guess, is continue to interview people.

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