This is Bible Project Podcast, and this year we're reading through the sermon on the mount.

I'm your host, Michelle Jones. Let's talk about sex. Not a thing you expect to hear in a conversation about the

sermon on the mount. Well, Jesus brought it up, so we're going to talk about it. We're in the part of the sermon on the mount where Jesus quotes from the

Old Testament laws and then shows us God's wisdom within it that is much more

relevant than ever. Today we look at the law, do not commit adultery.

Sex means different things to different people. It can be a way to connect or

avoid connection. It can be a compulsion.

Sex has also been used as a way to control or harm someone.

But the Bible wants us to think about sex as something profound.

Jesus is a part of a tradition that has such a high exalted view

of sexual desire and sex as sacred

and as a window into something transcendent.

That was Tim Mackie.

Today, John and Tim sit down with New Testament scholar Dr. Lucy Pepiet

to talk about Matthew 5 27 to 30, where Jesus says, I tell you, anyone who goes on looking

at a woman in order to cultivate lust for her has committed adultery in his heart.

If men and women understood God's vision for how we can relate and not just as married men and married women and that's what's

interesting about our passage that we're looking at. Underneath this command of

Do Not Commit Adultery is a biblical vision of how all men and women can relate to one another.

Do I view the opposite sex as an indispensable, essential other to the flourishing of my own life and of my whole community.

Thanks for joining us. Here we go. Hey Tim. Hi John,

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