Welcome once again to the Conversations That Matter podcast. I'm your host, John Harris.

He's a special guest today who's never been on the podcast before. This is his first time. His name is William Allen.

And he wrote a book called Not Man Enough

to Be a Woman. He has a ministry called Transformed Life Outreach. And in his ministry, he attempts to

engage LGBTQ plus people, people who view themselves that way, and help them understand

who Christ wants them to be,

because he is also someone who came from that world, who is now living a sanctified Christian life,

and he's here to give us hope, to tell us about that journey, and to hopefully educate us a bit

with how we can be lights in our own communities.

With that, welcome, William Allen.

Thank you for being here.

It was a pleasure to meet you a few weeks ago at the Southern Baptist Convention.

I know you're friends with Willie Rice, the president of the Southern Baptist Convention,

you go to his church, and he was instrumental in your life.

Maybe we should go there first. Let's hear about kind of what happened in your life. Maybe we should go there first.

Let's hear about kind of what happened in your life in the last few years.

What did God do?

And then let's talk about the world we're in now and the message you have.

Yeah, well, thanks for having me, John.

It's good to be with you.

Yeah, I had been living for decades as a woman. It was something I dealt with since early

childhood, and I finally gave into it in the early 90s, and I transitioned. And I was one of

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