This is the greatest hour to follow Jesus.

Obviously the scripture speaks about the hearts of the fathers and sons turning towards each other.

And we hope to, during this time, really get some wisdom from you and Michael through hearing your journey together and your experience together as a father in the ministry to Michael.

And so a lot of the questions will be geared towards that way.

But we want to dig a little deeper.

Jesse is going to ask some more personal questions.

I'm going to probably stick to.

Help me with that one.

Yeah, yeah.

But I want to start off by asking you, how do you feel in general about this generation of young preachers and young ministries that are

rising up? We often share about the son's hearts towards the father. We all love you. We think that you are

absolutely legendary. But sincerely, but we want to know what your heart is towards the sons, towards this generation.

What's stirring in your heart towards the generation that's up and coming now?

Well, I will tell you, first of all, I believe in the scriptural truth about spiritual fathers, because Paul talked about that in the scripture.

Now, with me, and I want to start with that, I did not really have that

when I began in ministry. I didn't have anyone I could go to for a long time. And I read a lot of books by the great giants of the faith, Andrew Murray, so many of the

great fathers back in those days that really touched my life. And then the Lord brought into my life

people like Dr. Winston-Nunes. Dr. Winston-Nunes was probably one of the greatest Bible

teachers in Canada. And he's the one who really kind of took a step in helping me. So he asked me

to have lunch with him weekly. And at first I wasn't sure how that would go. But he really helped me in minister a lot.

And one of the things, for example, that happened, when I began preaching, I was 21, little experience as a minister.

And I began thinking about starting a church in Toronto.

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