Ted Audio Collective It's not women's fault that they are systematically

denied opportunities and I think it's incredibly dangerous for us to give women the message

that if they only did something differently, if they only wore a softer sweater, if they

only spoke with a smile, if they only did this, if they only did that, then the doors would

be open.

From the Ted Audio Collective, this is Design Matters with Debbie Millman.

For 18 years, Debbie Millman has been talking with designers and other creative people about

what they do, how they got to be who they are, and what they're thinking about and working

on.

On this episode, Jessica Nordell talks about how implicit biases shape our world in negative

ways.

We need to solve the problem of the expression of bias.

That's where the work needs to be done.

Last year, Science and Cultural Journalist Jessica Nordell published her first book and

it's more timely and relevant than ever now.

It's called The End of Bias of Beginning, how we eliminate unconscious bias and create

a more just world.

The science of how we think without really thinking and what we can do to change the

pernicious patterns of thought.

We're going to talk about that and about her broad and very career.

She was once a staff comedy writer for a Prairie Home Companion and she's produced literary

radio shows and she's also worked with Christy Tippett on her podcast on Being.

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