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Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

Jessica Gao on 'She-Hulk: Attorney at Law'

Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

The Ringer

Society & Culture

4.83.6K Ratings

🗓️ 20 August 2022

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

Larry is joined by Emmy Award-winning writer and producer Jessica Gao to talk about her new Disney+ series 'She-Hulk: Attorney at Law'. They begin their conversation by talking about how they became friends, why she wanted to develop a show around She-Hulk, and her personal connection to the character. Next, Jessica details her journey from comic book fan to comic book TV and movie writer via her experiences working at a comic book store at a young age and the subsequent opportunities that presented themselves after contributing to a writing fellowship at Nickelodeon.(11:08) This leads to a discussion about the importance of identifying career "indicators" that reveal the value of your work and consistently learning your craft when starting out.(27:45) Jessica then describes her struggle to avoid being pigeonholed as a Chinese-American woman in a white male-dominated Hollywood machine and maintain representation within her projects and throughout the industry.(32:54) After the break, Larry and Jessica break down the challenges of putting together a Marvel show and praise the incredible work of the 'She-Hulk' cast, particularly lead actress Tatiana Maslany.(37:07) They end the pod by looking forward to the rest of the show's first season and Jessica shares some very amusing anecdotes about her parents.(54:22) Host: Larry Wilmore Guest: Jessica Gao Producer: Chris Sutton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

I'm Charles Holmes, the Ringer Music Show, and I'm Cole Kushner from Dicec and Charles and I

0:05.2

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0:10.2

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0:15.9

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0:21.4

and the features. Listen to Last Song Standing on the Dicec podcast feed only on Spotify.

0:35.1

All right, welcome back everybody. Guys, every week I tell you this is summer of

0:38.8

treats. It just gets better and better because the treat you're getting today is a personal one

0:44.2

as well as professional. What we have is the new show She Hulk has just premiered on Disney

0:52.1

Plus for all you Marvel fans and they've been waiting for this. But I have the showrunner

0:58.2

and executive producer of She Hulk, a good friend of mine, the Emmy winner and the brilliant Jessica

1:04.3

Gow. Welcome to Black on the Air, Jessica. I'm so happy to be here. I'm so happy to see you.

1:09.4

I'm so excited. I know, Jessica, this you've been working on this for so long. You've been pouring

1:14.3

your whole heart, soul and brain and wit and everything vision into this and congratulations.

1:21.1

It's so entertaining. It's so, you know, it's funny because it's a comedy, which you go,

1:26.5

wait, this is this supposed to be a comedy, you know, and in the Marvel, they're always kind of

1:31.4

funny anyway, but I guess they're adventures, but it's got everything in it. It's really well done.

1:36.0

Congratulations. Thank you so much. Oh, yeah. I mean, three years I've been working on. Yeah.

1:41.1

You saw me in Atlanta. I know. I was in a bad place. You were keeping it together. Yeah.

1:47.7

I gave you credit. Just kidding. I went out to breakfast. This was the last fall, I guess.

1:52.4

It was a full year ago. Yeah, because I was in Atlanta shooting and catching up with you. Yeah,

1:58.4

you were going through it at that time. I remember there were a lot of problems going on and I'm like,

2:03.2

yep, these are the showrunner problems. That's good. These are the showrunner problems.

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