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Love to See It with Emma and Claire

Jessi Draper On CHD & More Taylor and Dakota News

Love to See It with Emma and Claire

Claire Fallon, Emma Gray

Tv & Film

4.35.8K Ratings

🗓️ 26 March 2026

⏱️ 85 minutes

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Summary

(Trigger Warning: Domestic violence and emotional abuse) If you or someone you know has been impacted by domestic violence, you can call 800-799-7233, or text BEGIN to 88788. Please listen to this episode with care. 

Jessi Draper and Jordan Ngatikaura’s rocky marriage has been one of the most upsetting storylines on “Secret Lives of Mormon Wives” for the past two seasons – especially the public revelation that not only did Jessi have a brief, tepid affair with Marciano from “Vanderpump Villa,” but Jordan had been self-admittedly emotionally abusive to her for years. So the fandom applauded the news last week that Jordan had filed for divorce. Yesterday, Jessi’s interview on Call Her Daddy dropped, and she spared no details, opening up about learning that Jordan had tried to hire escorts, her belief that he attended sex parties, and the chilling moment she realized that he was trying to film her angry reaction to him blackmailing her with threats of revealing her affair on TikTok.  

At the end of the episode, we also got into some news updates regarding Taylor Frankie Paul and Dakota Mortensen, as well as rumors that ABC and WBD might be holding out hope that they can air “The Bachelorette” season at some point in the future.

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0:00.0

I'm

0:02.0

Thanks, I don't need help

0:07.0

Just watch me love myself

0:11.0

That's all I want, got what I want,

0:15.0

That's all I want, I'm not sorry

0:20.0

I'm Claire Fallon.

0:21.6

And I'm Emma Gray.

0:23.6

And this is Love to See It, an obsessively detailed podcast about the romance we see on screen,

0:28.6

from reality dating shows like The Bachelor to classic rom-coms and other pop culture that makes us laugh, cry, and curse the patriarchy.

0:44.0

We can't live with these stories and we can't live without them, but we can break down every juicy detail and unpack all the weird messages on-screen romance sends us about love, sex, and dating.

0:52.1

Stop, drop, roll.

0:54.0

Love and dating.

1:06.5

Welcome to Love to See It, a podcast about a very shitty Mormon wife's husband. And also some more depressing news surrounding Taylor Frankie Paul, Dakota Mortensen, and the now canceled season 22 of The Bachelorette.

1:16.2

If you missed our deep dive into the cancellation of Taylor Frankie Paul's season of The Bachelorette, scroll back in your feed, it's right there.

1:25.6

We recorded it last week. We'll catch up on some of the

1:30.5

newer pieces of information at the end of this episode. Also, we recently moved rich text over to Patreon,

1:38.1

and that's where you can find our coverage of this season of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, as well as our

1:42.6

coverage of past seasons of Secret Lives of Mormon wives, as well as our coverage of past seasons of secret lives of Mormon wives, and our upcoming discussion about the dating show Age of Attraction.

1:50.7

So you can find those conversations and more at patreon.com slash rich text.

1:56.0

Okay, so we knew we had to like have an emergency news and gossip podcast when we saw that Jesse Draper was going on call her daddy.

2:07.3

Yeah.

2:08.5

Right on the heels of all of the absolute depressing, awful craziness surrounding the season of The Bachelorette.

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