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The Watch

Jesse Armstrong on the Making of ‘Mountainhead.’ Plus, Why ‘Stick’ Doesn’t Stick.

The Watch

The Ringer

Tv & Film

4.55.2K Ratings

🗓️ 12 June 2025

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

Chris and Andy talk about the news that ‘Presumed Innocent’ Season 2 will star Rachel Brosnahan and become an anthology series (02:23). Then they talk about the first episode of Apple TV+’s new golf show, ‘Stick,’ starring Owen Wilson, and why ultimately the pilot felt discombobulated (08:17). Finally, they are joined by ‘Succession’ creator Jesse Armstrong to talk about his new TV movie, ‘Mountainhead,’ and how he made it in under six months (22:25). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Guest: Jesse Armstrong Producer: Kaya McMullen Video Producer: Jon Jones Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:30.0

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0:31.4

I need sports to have to clear the room.

0:34.6

Stand up and walk now.

0:37.4

Hello, and welcome to The Watch.

0:39.4

My name is Chris Ryan.

0:40.7

I am an editor at the ringer.com.

0:43.5

And joining me on the other line, Apple TV has convinced him to take up golf.

0:49.5

It's Andy Greenwald.

0:51.7

Do you think they could do what you could never do?

0:54.8

Do you really think that?

0:56.3

Come on.

0:56.5

To dig deep and find your inner swing.

1:00.4

I mean, you got to get your swing thoughts together.

1:01.9

That's the number one thing.

1:03.1

Do you think that my refusal to engage with golf is payback for your refusal to engage in the

1:09.3

films of Miyazaki?

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