Jess Johnston, PERFECT IS BORING (AND IT TASTES LIKE KALE): Finding Belonging and Purpose Without Changing Who You Are
Totally Booked with Zibby
Zibby Owens
4.4 • 602 Ratings
🗓️ 13 August 2025
⏱️ 20 minutes
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Zibby chats with bestselling author Jess Johnston about PERFECT IS BORING (AND IT TASTES LIKE KALE), a hilariously candid, refreshingly self-aware, and deeply heartfelt exploration of letting go of perfectionism and finding connection through honesty. Jess and Zibby discuss motherhood’s messiness, resisting the comparison trap, the power of supportive friendships, and the freedom that comes from showing up as you are.
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, this is Zibi Owens, and you're listening to Totally Booked with Zibby. Formerly, moms don't have time to read books. In my daily show, I interview today's latest, best-selling, buzziest, or underrated authors and story creators, whose work I think is worth your time. As a bookstore owner, publisher, author, and obviously podcaster, I get a comprehensive |
| 0:24.0 | look at everything that's coming out and spend my time curating the best books so you don't |
| 0:29.3 | have to. |
| 0:30.3 | Stay in the know, get insider insights, and connect with guests like I do every single day. |
| 0:36.2 | For more information, go to zibbmedia.com and follow me on Instagram |
| 0:40.2 | at Zibby Owens. Jess Johnston is the author of Perfect, is Boring, and it tastes like kale, |
| 0:50.0 | finding belonging and purpose without changing who you are. Jess lives in Southern California with her |
| 0:54.7 | husband and four kids who are the loves of her life. She is an enneagram 7 and is enthusiastic about |
| 1:01.2 | everything, but especially people, travel, and sauces. Jess's writing makes you feel like you're |
| 1:05.6 | sitting cross-legged on her couch in your cozy pants while sharing hearts and drinking coffee. |
| 1:11.1 | She is the co-author of the Wall Street Journal bestseller. |
| 1:14.1 | I'll be there, but I'll be wearing sweatpants. |
| 1:16.0 | And has been a top contributor to publications such as HuffPost, Scary Mommy, and Motherly. |
| 1:21.4 | Welcome, Jess. |
| 1:22.3 | Thanks so much for coming on Totally Booked with Zivie to talk about. |
| 1:25.2 | Perfect is boring and it tastes like kale finding |
| 1:28.3 | belonging and purpose without changing who you are thank you thank you so much for having me |
| 1:34.0 | as you can see by our introduction here where i was in the wrong place when we started uh my |
| 1:39.4 | certainly not perfect and your advice was right on point for me. So thank you for that. |
| 1:45.7 | Oh, I love that. |
| 1:47.7 | Why don't you tell listeners what your book is about? |
| 1:50.4 | My book is really about my own journey with perfectionism and also just realizing how powerful |
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