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The Book Case

Jesmyn Ward on Pain and Beauty

The Book Case

ABC News

Fiction, Arts, Society & Culture, Books

4.7913 Ratings

🗓️ 28 May 2026

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

Jesmyn Ward is arguably one of the most important writers of our generation.  She has won two National Book Awards before fifty (first woman to do that and first Black woman to do that). And in this, her new essay book, ON WITNESS AND RESPAIR, she writes essays on everything from Faulkner to Hurricane Katrina. This book is in part a look back at some of her most impactful essays, speeches, and book introductions-but this is also a remarkable book full of pain, fascination and joy. Join us in our conversation with one of the generations most thoughtful and talented writers. Find books mentioned on The Book Case: https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/shop/story/book-case-podcast-reading-list-118433302 Books mentioned on this week's episode: On Witness and Respair by Jesmyn Ward Let us Descend by Jesmyn Ward Sing, Unburied, Sing by Jesmyn Ward Salvage the Bones by Jesmyn Ward Men We Reaped by Jesmyn Ward The Fire This Time by Jesmyn Ward Where the Line Bleeds by Jesmyn Ward Between the World and Me by Ta-Nehisi Coates Heavy by Kiese Laymon In Cold Blood by Truman Capote The Years by Nicholas Delbanco Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to all you bookcases.

0:08.6

Welcome to all you bookies.

0:10.4

It's good to have you with us again for another version of the bookcase with Kate and Charlie.

0:16.1

Hello, book nerds. I'm Kate. How are you? I'm the one that keeps him honest.

0:21.0

We have with us this week one of the most important voices I think in writing in America today.

0:28.4

Jesmond Ward has a new book out of essays that she has written over the last 10 years or so.

0:35.7

On Witness and Respair is the name of the book. And I have a sense of what

0:40.8

you may be thinking, oh, ho, a book of essays. Give me a mystery for goodness sakes. But bear me out.

0:47.9

Because when this book came to us, we had the same reaction that few people will want to read it,

0:53.5

but they should. They should,

0:55.5

right, Kate? I think they should. And I think also, too, we've made the case before and we'll

1:00.2

make it again here. Please try essay books. I mean, they really are. They're an amazing way to sit down

1:06.8

with a writer and pick their brain without picking their brain. It's a great way to get sort of washed

1:12.2

in their language and in their thoughts on deep and meaningful matters. And I loved this book. I think

1:18.4

it's beautifully written. It's remarkably written. It's a group of a lot of her different works.

1:24.4

And she sort of covers everything. Like there's an amazing literary essay on Gatsby.

1:30.0

There is her thoughts on raising a black son. Like, there's a little bit of everything in this

1:34.6

book, and all of it is worth a read. Yeah, I thought when we got this book that we should probably

1:39.5

take a pass. But when Jason Reynolds, who was with us a couple of weeks ago, said to us, you have to read this

1:45.8

book, I'm so glad we did. The Jesman Award writes great fiction. She's the only woman to win the

1:51.5

National Book Award twice, twice she's won it. Yes. And as this book... And she's not in her 80s.

1:58.2

No, no. She hasn't quite turned 50 yet, so that's quite an accomplishment.

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