Welcome back to the podcast, bribe, swindle, or steel. I'm Alexandra Ragi. Today we're talking about another

tranche of emails and documents that have been uncovered and which exposed massive financial crime.

My guest is Robert Kribb. Rob is an investigative and foreign affairs reporter at

the Toronto Star. He's received national reporting awards and citations for investigations

into offshore tax evasion, child exploitation, human trafficking, dangerous doctors, and public

health threats. He's also the past president of the Canadian Association of Journalists.

He teaches investigative reporting at Ryerson University's School of Journalism and at the University

of Toronto. Rob, thank you for joining me.

I'm grateful. Thanks for having me.

Can you tell us a little bit about the Jersey Files? I think this will be a new story for a lot of people.

Why don't we start with how this all started?

I got a call from a European

consortium of media organizations that had access to this huge leak of documents, about 350,000

records. And they called me essentially, I think, because I've been a lot of this in the past,

I worked on the Panama Papers and the Paradise Papers. And this is like emerging into sort of a beat now where there's this group of journalists internationally that

are doing these kinds of stories as these leaks come out. And so it's become a bit of a club. So

whenever these leaks happen, we all kind of call each other and say, you know, let's work

together because these leaks are so massive and large and they're

sweeping in geography and scope. It only makes sense, really, for a bunch of reporters to work

together on it. And there was a ton of Canadian content in this particular leak. So I got this

call from a great journalist who I've worked with in the past and he just said, do you want to

join? And honestly,

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