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So a little behind the scenes here.

So before I ask this question and I'm a little hesitant in asking it,

so I'm a little long-winded and getting there.

So I'm trying to get him to address winning time.

I'm trying to figure a way to do that.

And I've had lunch with Jerry a few times.

And I've been out with him socially as well. And I've never seen him drink.

Not one time.

Not once.

So to me, it was really fascinated that winning time made him look like an alcoholic.

Just made him look like a guy who throws his trophy through his office window and that he's at the bar, getting fucked up, meeting his future wife.

Crazy shit.

I was, because I saw Winning Time after we met, extremely suss at this depiction.

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