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Jerry Brown on how to deal with China

Amanpour

CNN

News

4.11K Ratings

🗓️ 19 May 2023

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

One of the dilemmas facing President Biden and his allies is how to develop a unified response to China's increasing assertiveness. Former Governor Jerry Brown founded the California China Climate Institute at UC Berkeley. He says it's tricky doing business with Beijing, but worries Washington hawks might be going down a dangerous path of no-return.  Also on today's show: Kelly Sampson, Director of racial justice at Brady: United Against Gun Violence & former gun industry insider Ryan Busse; historian Evan Thomas  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello everyone and welcome to Amantour. Here's what's coming up.

0:08.0

Well I think we're barreling toward a hot war, not just a cold war.

0:13.0

Less hawk, more talk.

0:15.0

As Biden and G7 allies meet in Japan,

0:18.2

California's former Governor Jerry Brown tells me

0:21.1

why US China policy needs to cool down and avoid catastrophe.

0:25.8

Also ahead.

0:26.8

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0:30.6

Guns, not drugs, are now America's top public health concern. We drill down into the bloody

0:36.2

truth about the weapons terrorizing the United States. Plus, the bomb was aimed at the heart of

0:41.6

Hiroshima, but Truman just didn't want to believe what he was about to do.

0:47.0

A moment that changed the world, historian Evan Thomas, author of Road to Surrender, talks to Walter Isixson about the shock waves nearly

0:56.2

80 years after dropping the program everyone. I'm Christiana Montpur in New York.

1:17.0

It's hard to keep track of the Ukrainian president of Volodomir-Zulenski these days

1:22.0

as he criss-crosses the globe non-stop on a

1:25.3

blitz to shore up military and economic support for what could be a defining

1:29.9

counter-offensive at home. Today it was the Arab League summit in Saudi Arabia.

1:35.1

Next up, Japan, where Ukraine is top of the agenda

1:38.4

at the G7 summit.

1:40.0

The big news there, President Biden has agreed to support a joint effort to train

1:44.8

Ukrainian pilots on modern fighter jets.

1:48.8

But for President Biden and friends, there's another country looming large on the doorstep and that's China.

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