This is a headgum podcast.

It's nice to lay it all on the table.

It's nice to lay it all on the table for me and just say like we've been watching what you're doing.

I know you've had your eye on us. And I think some of the early stuff we saw from you guys

was lights out.

Like, uh oh, the new models are in and I and had me sweating bullets.

Yes, nice, you know.

And it's and um I'm feeling whether or not that is

continue to be the trajectory is not like even for sure and that

the issue here because there's so much content and there's so much shit out there.

I'm not scared in that same way anymore and I don't know if it's like I'm just like kind of more

Did I get comfortable with the feeling?

That must be what it is a little bit more mature.

I don't know because we have other stuff going on obviously and I think probably there was a point where you

guys must have been looking like am I gonna be able to sit down with the big cats

at the table and now it's like and we're here and we're

yeah of course because you've earned your seat on the couch.

Oh sure thank you you know and we've been on the car now

check we've been here but you must be wondering is is like carved into the cushion.

But you must have been saying like,

are we gonna be the ones like,

to knock up off the couch.

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