Jeremy Hobson on the "Rally Around the Flag" Risk in Iran
The Gist
Peach Fish Productions
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🗓️ 17 January 2026
⏱️ 33 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, it's Saturday where we bring you one from the week and one from the vault. |
| 0:08.5 | It's not really the vault this week. |
| 0:10.7 | It's another appearance I did on a show. |
| 0:13.2 | The show, the middle, is one of the fastest growing, maybe only fast growing, NPR shows or |
| 0:19.2 | public radio shows. |
| 0:20.3 | It's hosted by Jeremy Hobson, who I have known for a long, long time. |
| 0:24.8 | And he is, they are branching out to some online only content because the show doesn't air every day. |
| 0:31.8 | And he had me on for the inaugural one, and that is called The Follow Up. |
| 0:37.9 | And so I thought I'd return the favor. He was nice enough to have me on as the inaugural one, and that is called the follow-up. And so I thought I'd return the favor. |
| 0:40.0 | He was nice enough to have me on as the inaugural guest. |
| 0:42.1 | I'd like to play it on my show and recommend it to you. |
| 0:44.6 | In that, you will hear us talking about Maduro and my point about the end game and not |
| 0:49.6 | thinking about second or third order effects. |
| 0:51.9 | That holds on the show, this show, the gist, which I didn't |
| 0:57.0 | get to follow up on this week, but I did want it to say for the record, so I'll say it now. |
| 1:00.8 | I think the same thing's going on with Donald Trump and Iran. He, I did talk about how much he |
| 1:06.4 | is enjoying the threats he's been making. And I analyzed my analysis was he has always liked making |
| 1:13.2 | threats, but this is now a time to really make threats. Why? Because the Maduro threats, |
| 1:18.2 | which like a lot of his supposedly taco threats, turned into an aripa, which is they |
| 1:24.7 | a riped Maduro out of his bed and brought him to the Metropolitan Detention Center. |
| 1:30.4 | You know, is that a good enough pun that I use it on Thursday show? |
| 1:34.5 | And today, I guess it is. |
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