Jeremy Bash: Point of No Return

Impolitic with John Heilemann

Audacy | Puck

News, Politics

4.8 • 4.2K Ratings

🗓️ 20 June 2025

⏱️ 88 minutes

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John is joined by former C.I.A. and Pentagon chief of staff Jeremy Bash to discuss the decision facing Donald Trump about going to war with Iran. Bash explains the history of the Iranian nuclear program and where it likely stands today; what Israel’s dramatic new efforts to destroy it have and haven’t achieved; the intelligence, domestic political debate, and other factors Trump is weighing as he considers intervening; and the best and worst case scenarios if he does. Jeremy also offers view of the sidelining of Tulsi Gabbard after her bizarre bid to sway Trump by means of a slickly produced social media video. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:05.1	Aloha and namaste everyone and welcome to Impolitic with John Heilmane Puck and Odyssey Joint featuring lively in-depth conversations with the people who cruise the quarters of power in America sculpting and shaping the ebb and flow of our politics and culture.
1:20.0	One of the things that Donald Trump was proudest of in the Trump 1.0 administration was the fact that, as he reminded us over and over and over again,
1:30.3	he did not get America into any wars, not short wars, not long wars, not forever wars.
1:38.6	In fact, in the 2024 campaign, Trump made a point of promising over and over again that he would continue along those
1:45.7	lines when he retook office in 2025. And yet, here we are sitting here five weeks into the new
1:53.9	administration, and we are apparently on the brink of possibly barreling, an all-out military confrontation with Iran over its
2:06.4	nuclear program, which Israel struck late last week and now is asking America to get involved
2:11.8	and help it finish the job by using some of its big bunker-busting bombs to kill what's left of the Iranian
2:22.0	nuclear program. It is a big deal with huge implications for the Middle East, for Israel and Iran,
2:30.4	obviously, for America, if we decide to go down this path and for the world.
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