All right, welcome on Dunkdown listeners.

I want to introduce a first time guest and someone that I've been very interested to have on because he's doing some of the best writing, I would say, out there in the NBA sphere.

Right now, he's worked for the Phoenix Suns.

He's worked for the Dallas Mavericks.

He created RPM, which you may know from back in his ESPN days. Now the M Suns. He's worked for the Dallas Mavericks. He created RPM, which you may know from

back in his ESPN days. Now the metric du jour is X RAPM and he is writing for Royce Webb's

substack. I speak, of course, of Jerry Engelman. How are you? How you doing? Thank you for the

kind words. Absolutely. So we've got a lot to talk about here you've

been writing some some great stuff i've always appreciated your perspective because you've never at all

huge to conventional uh wisdom and i think that's served you more times than not um before we get

into all the stuff you've been writing and we're going to talk about the

state of analytics and discussions of current underrated players and some of the posts

that you've had recently, I want to tell everyone that you can catch Jerry's writing at

Royceweb substack.

That's Royceweb.com.

And we have a special coupon with the URL Nate Raite. Royce came substack. That's Royceweb.com. And we have a special coupon with the URL, Nate

Rate. Royce came up with that, not me. It was a good one. So that's Royceweb.com slash

Nate rate, if you would like to hear more of Jerry's thoughts. So we're going to start here,

Jerry, is you that were at the forefront, but 10 years, forefront, but 10 years ago now, I guess, in, uh, maybe you can correct me on when it was exactly, but in coming up with the regularized adjusted plus minus technique where you're using, you can correct me if I'm wrong again.

I don't understand the technical stuff that much.

You're basically coming up with an estimate of how good a player is based on how the team

performs when he is on the floor with certain teammates.

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