Jens Stoltenberg on... Trump, Putin and nuclear war
Ukrainecast
BBC
4.7 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 13 November 2024
⏱️ 45 minutes
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Summary
Will Donald Trump pull out of Nato? What should we make of his recent appointments? How worried should we be about the threat of nuclear war?
Jens Stoltenberg, who stood down as Nato secretary general last month is in the studio and answers all these questions… and more.
Today’s episode is presented by Victoria Derbyshire and Vitaly Shevchenko. The producers were Arsenii Sokolov and Ben Carter. The technical producer was Mike Regaard. The series producer is Tim Walklate. The senior news editor is Sara Wadeson. Email Ukrainecast@bbc.co.uk with your questions and comments. You can also send us a message or voice note via WhatsApp, Signal or Telegram to +44 330 1239480
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Audio credit: The Shawn Ryan show
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| 0:00.0 | Hello there, listeners. It's Olga from Herzogne here. You've probably heard me on the podcast |
| 0:05.6 | before talking about my life in Ukraine. Before you hear today's episode, I just wanted to flag |
| 0:12.1 | that I'll be on a special program next week to mark 1000 days since the full-scale invasion, |
| 0:19.2 | along with some other Ukrainians who've regularly appeared |
| 0:23.2 | on the podcast. If you've got any questions for me, student Vitaly and young mom, Irina, |
| 0:29.5 | please send us an email or WhatsApp. The contact details are in the episode description. |
| 0:36.3 | Thanks. |
| 0:41.3 | BBC Sounds, music, radio, podcasts. |
| 0:46.3 | Hello, it's 994 days since Russia began its full-scale invasion of Ukraine. |
| 0:55.6 | And a week on since the US election, today we are talking to a man that Donald Trump back in 2019 described like this. |
| 1:01.6 | I think he's doing a fantastic job. I'm a big fan. His contract was extended. I was very happy about that. But you really are. You're doing a fantastic job. We appreciate it. |
| 1:05.3 | The man he's talking about is Jens Stoltenberg, the former head of NATO. |
| 1:14.1 | He served as NATO sector general for 10 years. |
| 1:19.5 | He's the second longest serving NATO sector general, Jens Stoltenberg. |
| 1:24.7 | We have seen the nuclear rhetoric from the Russian side, actually since the beginning of the war. |
| 1:29.1 | Russia has not escalated against any NATO ally, but a nuclear war cannot be won and must never be fought. And today he'll be in the Ukrainecast studio with us. |
| 1:34.0 | We're going to talk about Donald Trump. We're going to talk about NATO. And obviously, |
| 1:37.5 | we're going to talk about the future of the conflict in today's episode. |
| 1:41.4 | This is Ukraine. |
| 1:43.3 | Ukraine cast from BBC News. Evil cannot be trusted. Ask |
| 1:48.5 | Prigogian. You are not dealing with a politician, but with a bloody monster. Is there a need for a serious |
| 1:55.8 | opponent? Why? I will prevent World War III. It's not just about Ukraine. It's about the whole future of Europe. |
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